WARNING!! Please read below for the latest advice from Fijian islanders about Ciguatera Fish Poison!
NEW POST: I received this message 4/10/12 via a private facebook page. I am amazed that this person’s cat lived as it usually kills small mammals. I am amazed to hear that the people she met from Nevada (who had not eaten fish before?) had no reaction. Never heard or read about this either, so I will ask her for more information on that.
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More people who are suffering… please read: WARNING!!!
NEW POST INFORMATION IS FROM/THROUGH NATIVE ISLANDERS WHO KNOW AND HAVE KNOWN FOREVER, ABOUT SUCH THINGS. THIS LADY LIVES ON A SOUTH PACIFIC ISLAND WITH THE ISLANDERS AND LIVES LIKE THEM. I BELIEVE THEY WOULD KNOW THE MOST SO LETS TAKE NOTICE
Hi Chris, Ive experienced Ciguatera Fish Poisoning once. My daughter Coral and out cat Tinkles got it from the same fish. So did the cook and the waitress. Strangely enough a large Mangrove Jack carried the algae induced poisoned flesh. Another 12 people all from the Nevada Desert ate from the same fish the same night. The fish was brought in freshly speared that day. The funny thing about Ciguatera is that if a persons diet consists of plenty of fish from the sea there is no immunity to contracting the violent sickness. The people from Nevada didn’t flinch the next day they were healthy as could be without a trace of poisoning. Unlike us I actually felt it coming on barely four hours after eating a modest portion. Cat nearly died and for 10 days Coral and I kept her strength up by eye-dropping liquids down her throat. Summer time in Fiji its not a good plan to eat Red skinned fish over 40cm in length especially if they are caught inside the reef lagoons. This is where the algae blooms which these fish feed off which poisons there flesh for human consumption.
Sega na lega A very important fact is that Ciga carrier fish, are actually predators of algae eating fish while not being algae eaters themselves. Thereby the Ciga carrier fish become contaminated, poisoning human and or mammalia who consume their fishy flesh. The specific type of algae prevails prolifically during summer in the tropics mainly. This the a dangerous time to be eating Coral Trout, Red Bass, and a few others after they exceed a length of 30cm. They are bound to be poisonous. However I speak from knowledge gleaned from Fiji Island communities, experience, and from my own research.
About 3 weeks ago when in Fiji Noelene and I were in SavuSavu. We were yarning to a extremely well seasoned sailor on his mono about to sail north. He relayed a very disturbing story. When he sailed across the Atlantic he had a crew on board who had this Gigarecorder laser thingy and they ran it along the body of a 2okg Walu (sorry my Fijian entering again) Spanish Makeral and the Giga went ballistic recording 75% over the healthy normal limit of radiation in this poor pelagic body.
HOW CAN WE GET THIS MESSAGE OUT TO EVERYONE SO THEY KNOW?!?!?
I am hoping to raise awareness of this so everyone can have a choice of knowing that they can die or be very ill from eating fresh fish!! Yes!! fresh fish… no, its not man made, its a perfectly natural toxin that can be deadly to mammals – small or large.
Fish eat the weed or algae on dying rock or coral that is toxic. When they are either consumed by a larger fish or grow to 3 kilos they pass the ciguatera toxin up the food chain. Nothing new but it was new to me when I got so sick….
DO NOT TRUST FISH OILS!!
DO NOT TRUST EATING FISH
DO NOT TRUST CANNED TUNA
DO NOT KID YOURSELF THAT YOUR CANT GET IT
CIGUATOXINS are amongst the deadliest mammalian poison known to us, volume for volume it is 1,000 times more potent than arsenic.
This frightening poison has been around for centuries – perfectly natural to our world for many centuries.
WE ARE NOT INFORMED and more importantly there is very little knowledge and even less help for anyone who gets ill from this toxin. I ate fresh fish with cigutera and my life has never been the same since.
WHY ARE WE NOT INFORMED? –
WHY DOESN’T ANYONE TALK ABOUT IT? –
WHY IS THERE NO AWARENESS ABOUT THIS POISON when just about everything else on the planet has a medicine for it. Possibly, this is a reason why. The medical field cant figure it out. However, I rarely find a medical person who has even heard of it so how can they diagnose people correctly.
is about the most common misdiagnoses – among other things that people are reported as having when doctors cant diagnose them….. dermatology problems, mental problems, imaginings!! ie. making it up. I have read of many many people who experience this before they are diagnosed, sometimes for years.
I have had CIGUATERA FISH POISONING for almost 13 years now and suffered enormous pain, burning skin and itching beyond belief causing a lot difficulty during those years. The Ciguatera Fish Poison is not a new poison but been around our planet from birth. It is caused by fish eating weed on DYING CORAL & ROCK which has the Ciguatera toxin contained within it. When the fish grows to 3kilos or a larger fish eats it, the ciguatera toxins are generated into the flesh of the fish and it becomes fatal to small mammals and some humans. There are many cases of deaths in recent years around the globe.
The ciguatera toxin contains 5 other toxins within it and is 1000 times more powerful than arsenic poisoning so it is very detrimental to ones health and well being if you happen to ingest it. OFTEN mis-diagnosed for MS, Skin problems, Mental problems and anything else they can think of because it is so little known about. I have known only one GP in many years who was a little familiar. Not one GP ever offered to help me look and learn!?
There is NO blood test for this however the ITCH & BURN is often the way this is diagnosed and redness, burning and intense itching of palms of hands, inner mouth, throat etc all at the onset especially. This subsides (sometimes) and changes into other symptoms; it moves about your body and attacks are recurrent depending on diet and activity. Some people can continue to work and have a fairly normal life, often reporting a re-attack when eating sea-foods, chicken etc… others…. suffer horribly and it changes their life forever, permanently and its real!! One’s hot and cold feelings become opposite as the nervous system is affected. Nausea, weight loss, loss of balance and thinking abilities, loss of muscular ability, amongst a myriad of other symptoms.
YOU DO NOT WANT TO GET CIGUATERA FISH POISONING so please educate yourself now
I hope this site will bring in stories from others who are suffering and some more information on how to cope with this insidious poison. I welcome and invite everyone to have their say, write their story and tell us your information on eating habits and maintaiing a lifestyle.
I have written a small book called LIVING WITH CIGUATERA FISH POISONING and welcome anyone to purchase it as an e-book from Xlibris, Amazon and other book stores. It is available as a soft cover for $20 plus postage and hard covers are available. I am happy to donate a book to any health organization or library that would use it for reference material.
Please send in your experiences to me so we can make this the hub of healing ourselves and each other, while making others aware of this dangerous poison & how easily it gets ingested.
You may not know about it before you get it but believe me you will know VERY QUICKLY if you have ingested ciguateric fish. Get to hospital and get a MANNITOL shot. You will need a great deal of medicine to help your body cope and there is NO MEDICAL HELP. Natural medicines – naturopathic and homeopathic are the only medicines that have helped me gain wellness and many others suffering. Please get natural help as soon as you can.
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I was talking to a fellow recently who has had ‘cig’ for years and said he was only sick initially but when he thought about it…. he did have reactions when he ate spanner crab. I have never heard about that either. I have come to believe from research that crustaceans are safe as they do not consume fish or the algae/weed that has the toxin.
SO how can we know if such different reactions are from person to person. I would never take the risk of eating any more seafood especially fish but people do and they do have further reactions. Obviously, it isnt severe enough to stop them eating fish! Amazing…. There is so much to wonder at, learn about and research.Anyone out there know some rich scientist who wants to look at this???I am continually blown away just how many people are suffering it but often don’t know, don’t talk about it or don’t live to find out! Really!
I talked to a lady recently who said her aunt died 20 minutes after eating fish out and they never found out what she died of….. WHAT!!!
how can doctors not find out for them or know something??!?!?
Anyone out there got your own experience with this horrid poisoning. ATM I cannot do much at all and the poison is quiet! Still it is a whole lot better than being in constant pain each day like it was during “flashes” or attacks. Anyone who is coping with it got any wonderful ways for healing? France has come up with a possible “cure” as they have worked out the DNA of the ciguatoxin and it sounds exciting. Let’s all hope something soon comes out to help many all over the globe..